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Jhuly Moderator
Dami ng Post : 7543 Puntos : 6539 Salamat : 7 Lokasyon : Novaliches Nagpatala : 2007-10-28
| Subject: People Power February 25th 2008, 10:19 am | |
| MANILA, Philippines -- Twenty-two years after uniting to oust Ferdinand Marcos, a deeply divided Filipino people go their separate ways on Monday to mark the anniversary of the dictator's downfall.
Groups demanding that President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo tell the truth about the scandal-tainted National Broadband Network (NBN) deal will converge on a Baclaran church, while those calling for Ms Arroyo's resignation will march on Don Chino Roces (Mendiola) Bridge and hold protests in more than a dozen cities across the country.
Top military and police officials will show their support for the beleaguered Arroyo administration by holding a "unity walk" from the People Power Monument on EDSA (Epifanio Delos Santos avenue) to Camp Aguinaldo. The Armed Forces and the Philippine National Police have heightened their alert status and threatened to arrest any of their men who would join the protests.
Ms Arroyo will stay away from the government commemoration and instead visit schools in the Manila suburbs to promote the Ahon Pamilyang Pinoy program involving cash grants for the health and education needs of poor families. The weather bureau has welcome news for the rally participants: Monday is a good day for street action.
The Philippine Atmospheric Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration (PAGASA) predicted that Metro Manila would have mostly cloudy skies on Monday -- -meaning the sun will be generally covered -- making the weather largely "conducive for walking."
Still, the cloudy skies may bring a little rain over the metropolis so it would be wise to bring umbrellas, forecaster Bobby Rivera said.
Former President Corazon Aquino, icon of the 1986 People Power revolution and an avowed enemy of immorality in government, will join Senate key NBN witness Rodolfo Noel Lozada Jr. and civil society, business, youth and other groups in a thanksgiving Mass at 3 p.m. at the National Shrine of Our Mother of Perpetual Help, better known as the Redemptorist Church, in Parañaque City.
Although opposition forces are expected to show up in full force at the church, the affair will be a solemn one with no plans for a protest rally after the Mass, organizers said.
The Black and White Movement, which has called on Ms Arroyo to vacate Malacañang, is also expected to attend.
Rallies in provinces
Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay, president of the United Opposition, urged Filipinos to attend the Mass "as an expression of solidarity with the various sectors that have actively taken part in national affairs, in the face of the latest crisis besetting the nation."
Lozada's testimony at the Senate about alleged massive kickbacks in the negotiations for the now scrapped NBN project with China's ZTE Corp. -- supposedly involving Ms Arroyo's husband, Jose Miguel Arroyo -- sparked the most dangerous political crisis to confront the administration since the "Hello Garci" election fraud scandal three years ago.
In addition to the Mendiola march, at least 14 other cities nationwide will hold simultaneous rallies Monday, led by the leftist Bagong Alyansang Makabayan (Bayan).
The group said the initial list of cities planning mass actions were Baguio, Calamba, Legazpi, Naga, Sorsogon, Daet, Masbate, Virac, Davao, Butuan, Surigao, Tandag, Bislig and Cagayan de Oro.
In Manila, organizers said several thousand left-wing protesters would march from the Welcome Rotonda boundary of Manila and Quezon City at 1 p.m. to historic Mendiola, after being denied a permit for a rally at the People Power Monument in Quezon City.
Bayan rally
"We are going to reaffirm the need for a people power as the only solution to the crisis being faced by the Arroyo presidency," said Bayan secretary general Renato Reyes Jr.
Bayan Muna Representatives Satur Ocampo and Teddy Casiño, Gabriela Representatives Liza Maza and Luz Ilagan, and Anakpawis Rep. Crispin Beltran are expected to join Monday's protests.
Bayan criticized the Land Transportation Franchising and Regulatory Board (LTFRB) for issuing restrictions against public utility vehicles ferrying protesters. The LTFRB has warned these vehicles could face fines up to P1,000 for being "out of line."
"They are targeting rally venues and public transport just so they can prevent us from publicly expressing our sentiments," Reyes said.
Unity walk
A noise barrage in España, Manila, will follow after the Bayan rally. Around 900 policemen will guard Mendiola, said the Manila Police District director, Chief Supt. Roberto Rosales.
For its part, the Eastern Police District has placed 500 policemen on standby around the EDSA Shrine in Mandaluyong City.
Emerging from a meeting with Ms Arroyo at Camp Crame, Philippine National Police Director General Avelino Razon Jr. said he and Armed Forces Chief of Staff Gen. Hermogenes Esperon Jr. would lead the unity walk to Camp Aguinaldo.
As rumors swirled about possible defections from the police and military, Razon said the walk was meant to show that the PNP and the AFP were one in their resolve not to intervene in the political problems besetting the country. "We will show that the PNP and AFP are solid," he said.
Esperon reiterated the AFP was loyal to the Constitution and to Ms Arroyo as the Commander in Chief.
Same destabilizers
Ms Arroyo visited the PNP headquarters on short notice. In a closed-door meeting with Razon and Interior Secretary Ronaldo Puno, she was briefed on the security preparations for Monday's protests.
Esperon was asked on radio dzBB if the military had monitored any efforts to recruit soldiers to join the destabilization attempts.
Esperon did not give a direct answer but instead blamed "whatever recruitment is going on" on the personalities behind the July 2003 Oakwood mutiny, the February 2006 coup plot, and the Peninsula Manila uprising. "They're just the same group," he said.
Razon said: "Suggestions of political intervention by the police and military are totally uncalled for and is seen as an insult to members of the police and military as dignified professionals."
"We in the PNP will not get ourselves involved in politics, much less in political intervention," he said.
The PNP has placed its units on a nationwide heightened alert, meaning 50 percent of the police force is on standby.
The AFP is on red alert throughout the country, with 3,000 troops, backed by armored personnel carriers and light tanks on standby at Camp Aguinaldo. | |
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bart Newbie
Dami ng Post : 62 Puntos : 6137 Salamat : 0 Lokasyon : manila Nagpatala : 2008-02-02
| Subject: Re: People Power February 26th 2008, 3:07 pm | |
| One people power is enough, pag dumami pa, it means hindi tayo natuto as a nation, let me share my reflection, sa people power '86, we want Marcos out kasi corrupt, abusado, mamamatay tao, madaya at kung anu-ano pa. people power '01, pinaalis si erap kasi corrupt, ngayon, si gloria gusto paalisin kasi corrupt. Since 1986, parehong issues ang binabato kay Marcos, hanggang ngayon yun pa din, hindi na yata tayo natuto, personalidad lang pinapalitan, pero yung rason kung bakit pinalitan, nakakalimutan yata natin. | |
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Jhuly Moderator
Dami ng Post : 7543 Puntos : 6539 Salamat : 7 Lokasyon : Novaliches Nagpatala : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: People Power February 26th 2008, 3:21 pm | |
| Kasama ng pagpapalit ng personalidad ay ang paglilinis sa sistema.
Paano kaya ito maisasagawa? Matagal na rin tayong nagsasabi na dapat baguhin ang mga sarili para mabago ang iba. Hindi ba ang tagal na atang sariling pagbabago iyan? Baka panahon na upang lumabas tayo sa ating mga lungga at direktang ayusin ang sistemang binulok na ng mahabang pagpapabaya natin na hawakan ito ng mga corrupt.
Sana maging matapang na ang mga Mabubuti at sila naman ang Tumakbo sa susunod na halalan. Huwag na nating iboto ang lahat ng mga politikong nasa kapangyarihan ngayon kasama ng mga dating politiko na. Ibang muka naman, TAYO naman!
Handa ba ang Matitinong Filipino sa ganitong pagkilos? Ako OO, kayo? | |
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bart Newbie
Dami ng Post : 62 Puntos : 6137 Salamat : 0 Lokasyon : manila Nagpatala : 2008-02-02
| Subject: Re: People Power February 26th 2008, 3:31 pm | |
| minsan naisip ko, masochista mga Pilipino, sinasampal na, binababoy na ng naghaharing uri, binabastos na, nakukuha pa ring tumuwa. tapos alam na nga mali ginagawa parang bale wala, sabi nga ni Gen. Danilo Lim: Dissent without action is consent. | |
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Jhuly Moderator
Dami ng Post : 7543 Puntos : 6539 Salamat : 7 Lokasyon : Novaliches Nagpatala : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: People Power February 26th 2008, 3:47 pm | |
| Nakalulungkot na katotohanan. Malalim na kasi ang ugat ng pagiging walang paki-alam ng mga Filipino. Masyado na tayong nasanay na "sila-sila" at "tayo-tayo" na mentality. Yun bang kasabihan na "hayaan mo sila basta ginagawa mo kung ano ang tama at wala kang nasasaktan okay na yun." Maling kaisipan, para bang hindi kasalanan ang hayaan mong mamayagpag ang kasamaan sa iyong harapan.
Dapat talagang baguhin na natin ang pananaw natin sa Pulitika. Hindi ito madumi dahil ang nagpapadumi dito ay ang mga taong may masamang interes. Kung magsasama lang ang mga taong may mabuting kalooban at siyang hahawak ng kapangyarihan siguro hindi na talaga kakailanganin pa ang People Power kasi mababawasan o mawawala na ang corruption. | |
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silip_lang Active Member
Dami ng Post : 3646 Puntos : 6352 Salamat : 2 Lokasyon : Balanga City, Bataan Nagpatala : 2007-11-27
| Subject: Re: People Power February 26th 2008, 3:54 pm | |
| On my opinion, people power is just showing that people are concern BUT hindi naman dapat gawing habbit. Tama ka kuya bart....ganun at ganun din palitan man ang pangulo.... nasanay tayo na kapag ayaw na natin sa nakaupo iaalis natin sa pwesto sa pamamagitan ng people power....wala tayong kakuntentuhan.... Hindi natin maiaalis sa ating politika ang pagiging gahaman sa salapi at kapangyarihan ng mga politiko....sa totoo lang wala pa akong nakitang matapat na pinuno ng gobyerno...nawa'y magkaroon ng pagbabago upang magkaroon ng tiwala ang mga tao sa gobyerno.. | |
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bart Newbie
Dami ng Post : 62 Puntos : 6137 Salamat : 0 Lokasyon : manila Nagpatala : 2008-02-02
| Subject: Re: People Power February 26th 2008, 4:17 pm | |
| Actually zai, we should go more than personalities e, should be a complete overhaul of the system, sa pananaw ko para pa rin kasing feudal system o oligarchy and umiiral dito sa pinas, mayroon naghaharing uri, kaya they would do everything to be in power. | |
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Jhuly Moderator
Dami ng Post : 7543 Puntos : 6539 Salamat : 7 Lokasyon : Novaliches Nagpatala : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: People Power February 26th 2008, 4:33 pm | |
| Hindi mababago ang sistema kung hindi ito pakikialaman ng mga taong may matapat na puso sa paglilingkod.
Pero may gusto lang akong linawin na isang bagay, hindi tayo nagpapalayas ng pangulo kasi "kaaway" o hindi lang natin siya gusto. Matalino naman po ang mga Filipino at parating may dahilan kung bakit natin pinalalayas ang isang pangulo.
Sa kaso si Marcos; sa kanyang administrasyon ay maraming pinatay na kalaban niya sa pulitika at isang damakmak na nakaw na yaman ang kanyang naipon.
Sa kaso ni Erap siguro naaalala niyo pa kasi ilang taon pa lang naman ang nakararaan.
Sa kaso ni Gloria lantad na lantad na po ang pagsisinungaling niya. Umamin na nga siya tungkol sa ZTE. Pero kahit hindi naman niya inamin sinabi na ni Neri na alam ni Gloria na may kalokohan ang ZTE project at ito ay itinuloy pa rin niya.
Ano ang punto ko? Hindi palalayasin ang isang pangulo kung hindi lantaran ang katiwalian sa kanyang pamumuno.
Si Cory at Ramos ay hindi nakatikim ng kaliwa't kanan na rally para palayasin sila sa puwesto. Si Cory ang naging kalaban niya ay ang kampon ni Honasan at ang naging problema naman ni Ramos ay ang rally ng taong bayan laban sa charter change. Pero pareho silang hindi nakatikim ng "resign" movement.
Ano ibig sabihin nito? Hindi trip trip lang ng mga Filipino ang pagpapalayas ng Pangulo. May dahilan kaya lumalabas sa kalye ang mga tao.
Pero hindi talaga solusyon ang isang milyon mang ulit na People Power kung hindi masasama sa mga babaguhin ang sistemang umiiral ngayon.
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silip_lang Active Member
Dami ng Post : 3646 Puntos : 6352 Salamat : 2 Lokasyon : Balanga City, Bataan Nagpatala : 2007-11-27
| Subject: Re: People Power February 26th 2008, 4:48 pm | |
| kuya bart, kuya jhuly, i am not against any person or politicians...what i don't like is their attitude or being corrupt. tama ang people power kung tama ang layunin..... sana lang after ng people power na ito mabago na ang sistema natin....that is what i am wishing and i am praying for it.. | |
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Jhuly Moderator
Dami ng Post : 7543 Puntos : 6539 Salamat : 7 Lokasyon : Novaliches Nagpatala : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: People Power February 26th 2008, 5:04 pm | |
| Zai maliwanag sa akin ang punto mo. Inayos ko lang ang isang pananaw na medyo taliwas kasi sa katotohanan. Hindi kasi talaga tamang sabihin na parati na lang nating hihilingin na lumayas ang pangulo kasi hindi natin siya gusto.
At tulad mo hangad ko rin ang pagbabago. Kaya lang panahon na siguro na maging mas-involve ang mga taong may mabuting kalooban sa pagpapatakbo ng ating Gobyerno. Kahit walang People Power ngayon okay lang sa akin basta sa darating na halalan sa 2010 mas maraming mabubuting tao at bagong mukha ang tumakbo, at huwag na sana tayong bumoto sa mga datihang pulitiko. | |
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silip_lang Active Member
Dami ng Post : 3646 Puntos : 6352 Salamat : 2 Lokasyon : Balanga City, Bataan Nagpatala : 2007-11-27
| Subject: Re: People Power February 26th 2008, 5:54 pm | |
| kung ganun kuya at gusto mo ng bagong mukha palitan natin mukha ni Gloria ng mukha mo hehhe joke :b mine: honestly speaking magaling din naman si gloria bilang pangulo subalit sobra na ang katiwalian kaya thumbs up ako sa'yo kuya hehe.. basta ako dito lang samin pag pray ko na lang ikaw na sasama sa rally hehe | |
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Jhuly Moderator
Dami ng Post : 7543 Puntos : 6539 Salamat : 7 Lokasyon : Novaliches Nagpatala : 2007-10-28
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silip_lang Active Member
Dami ng Post : 3646 Puntos : 6352 Salamat : 2 Lokasyon : Balanga City, Bataan Nagpatala : 2007-11-27
| Subject: Re: People Power March 3rd 2008, 4:47 pm | |
| iyan ang hindi tama....ibinenta ang pakistan ng kanilang bansa sa america ayon sa aking kaibigan....hindi natin nanaisin na ganun din ang mangyari satin... ayon sa iba...hindi magiging magaling na leader ang isang babae....sa kaso ni Gloria tama sila dun.... | |
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Jhuly Moderator
Dami ng Post : 7543 Puntos : 6539 Salamat : 7 Lokasyon : Novaliches Nagpatala : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: People Power March 3rd 2008, 5:13 pm | |
| Ang pagiging magaling ng isang lider ay hindi nakabatay sa kanyang Kasarian.
Ewan ko na lang kung may pag-aaral tungkol dito.
Balik tayo sa topic, alam nyo ba na may mga taong pumunta nuong Friday sa Makati ang umaasang magkakaroon ng People Power para mapalayas na si Gloria? Ngunit hindi iyon ang damdamin ng mas nakararami. | |
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silip_lang Active Member
Dami ng Post : 3646 Puntos : 6352 Salamat : 2 Lokasyon : Balanga City, Bataan Nagpatala : 2007-11-27
| Subject: Re: People Power March 3rd 2008, 5:19 pm | |
| ano pala ag nasa damdamin ng iba???? iba pa rin pag ang leader ay lalaki | |
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Jhuly Moderator
Dami ng Post : 7543 Puntos : 6539 Salamat : 7 Lokasyon : Novaliches Nagpatala : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: People Power March 3rd 2008, 5:36 pm | |
| Hindi naniniwala ang karamihan sa dumalo sa Rally na mauuwi sa People Power yung Interfaith. Kabaligtaran ito ng paniwala ng maraming "busy" na Filipino na parating sinasabi kapag nag-rally eh People Power na agad.
Pumunta ang karamihan sa Makati Interfaith rally para manalangin, yung iba, tulad ko ay upang ipakita ang pagsuporta ko sa panawagang huwag pigilan ang paglabas ng katotohanan na alam kong kung palalabasin ay siguradong mapapalayas si Gloria dahil sa kahihiyan.
Hindi pumunta sa Makati para mag-People Power. kasi ang People Power ay hindi organisadong pagkilos. Ang naganap sa Makati at magaganap pa sa mga darating na araw ay pagpapakita lang na "tinitindigan ng marami ang kanilang paniniwala" sa isang mas radikal na pamamaraan.
Hindi ba ninyo napapansin? Ilang Linggo na tayong may mga Rally pero yung kinatatakutang pagbagsak ng ekonomiya ay hindi naman nangyayari? It is just a propaganda being hurled by those na apektado sa lumalaking mga kilos protesta laban sa katiwalian.
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silip_lang Active Member
Dami ng Post : 3646 Puntos : 6352 Salamat : 2 Lokasyon : Balanga City, Bataan Nagpatala : 2007-11-27
| Subject: Re: People Power March 4th 2008, 10:27 am | |
| kung ganun pala maganda ang layunin ng mga taong dumalo....honestly i was expecting for a big rally or people power para mapaalis si Gloria.... God will make a way....Matatapos ang suliraning ito at aangat ang ating ekonomiya | |
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waloako Senior Member
Dami ng Post : 761 Puntos : 6306 Salamat : 1 Lokasyon : diocese ng novaliches Nagpatala : 2007-09-10
| Subject: Re: People Power March 7th 2008, 2:10 pm | |
| amen amen amen tinanggal na niya ang EO 464, at ang memo 108 (teka ang huli d ko tiyak ang numero) makakaharap na ang mga witness sa senado ito ang twist ni tita glow na bago... kelangan isubmit ng senate ang questions beforehand, at 15 days muna bago mapaharap ang mga witness sa senate... ano???? wow naman sa laboooo... =( | |
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bart Newbie
Dami ng Post : 62 Puntos : 6137 Salamat : 0 Lokasyon : manila Nagpatala : 2008-02-02
| Subject: Re: People Power March 7th 2008, 2:27 pm | |
| Sana pwede rin yun sa job interview, send muna sa yo yung set of questions before the actual job interview | |
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waloako Senior Member
Dami ng Post : 761 Puntos : 6306 Salamat : 1 Lokasyon : diocese ng novaliches Nagpatala : 2007-09-10
| Subject: Re: People Power March 7th 2008, 2:43 pm | |
| oo nga ano... adiktus talaga itong si madam. hehehe nagPM ako sa yo manong bart hehe.. | |
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Jhuly Moderator
Dami ng Post : 7543 Puntos : 6539 Salamat : 7 Lokasyon : Novaliches Nagpatala : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: People Power March 7th 2008, 3:15 pm | |
| Manong Bart may PM rin ako sayo!
Sabi ko na nga ba malulusutan pa rin ang delema ng panawagan ng CBCP eh. Ang tanong ngayon ay kung ano ang next move ng CBCP. | |
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silip_lang Active Member
Dami ng Post : 3646 Puntos : 6352 Salamat : 2 Lokasyon : Balanga City, Bataan Nagpatala : 2007-11-27
| Subject: Re: People Power March 13th 2008, 2:31 pm | |
| dahil sa ginawa ng CBCP nagpakitang gilas si MAdam...eh ang kamalasmalasan mautak talaga si Madam...biruin mo ba namang mapag-aaralan pa ang tanong at pwede pang igawa ng script at imemorize para walang huli.... hahahha astig ka Gloria.... | |
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Jhuly Moderator
Dami ng Post : 7543 Puntos : 6539 Salamat : 7 Lokasyon : Novaliches Nagpatala : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: People Power July 7th 2008, 7:37 pm | |
| Abangan ang mga susunod na kabanata... hindi lahat ng araw ay Linggo para kay Gloria... | |
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bantay Senior Member
Dami ng Post : 2175 Puntos : 6061 Salamat : 0 Lokasyon : muntinlupa Nagpatala : 2008-04-18
| Subject: Re: People Power July 9th 2008, 6:36 pm | |
| gusto ko na makita ang mga mangyayari.. | |
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Jhuly Moderator
Dami ng Post : 7543 Puntos : 6539 Salamat : 7 Lokasyon : Novaliches Nagpatala : 2007-10-28
| Subject: Re: People Power July 9th 2008, 6:39 pm | |
| Kung mayroon man sana eto na nga hinihintay na "pagkakataon" upang baguhin ang sistemang sablay ng ating lipunan...
pero kung papalitan lang rin naman yung naka-upong trapo ng isa pang trapo... eh huwag na lang... | |
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